For the past many months I have been discussing politics with a senior RSS figure. i.e. not someone who only attends shakha events but
- Is an invited speaker at RSS events. Preaches at multiple shakhas AND
- Believes his "cell" directly reports to Amit Shah.
It took many months of careful debating to go beyond the most common RSS defense points and get to what the person really thinks about his org and his party... God! how many times have we discussed something and the gentleman pulled one of these out of his hat to distract the discussion...
Listing the most common distraction point here for future reference.
- Sex
- This is a western concept and is against our tradition, deep state, soros, ford foundation etc. etc. etc.
- Muslim
- Anti-Hindu! apologise right now!
- Even Sri-Krishna advocating lying...
- Pappu
- Reference to books by dodgy authors.
- What-about ...
Sex and other personal attacks
Great Minds Discuss Ideas; Average Minds Discuss Events; Small Minds Discuss People. --Eleanor
To this quote we should add RSS minds discuss sex.
Pick up any public figure and your shakhachaap will spill some sex related rumor, Gandhi, Nehru, Savarkar, Vivekananda, Indira, Rajiv, Sonia, Rahul, Vajapayee... Pick anyone start a discussion on their life and wait for your RSS person to "spill the beans on their sexual life".
God! Mohanji, I know you catch them young in your shakhas, but do you need to fulfill their masturbatory fantasy needs too?
Personal attacks.
The Sangh, has a derogatory name for everyone. And some story or another which shows the person in bad life, some of these are outright lies, Some taken out of context and twisted to suite their narrative. Some from a time before their growth into the person they are now. Refer to an authority in a given subject and this will be their first line of defense.
Reference to dodgy authors
"You cannot really understand this until you have read the following books by the following authors"
In my youth I used to accept this argument, maybe someone from their side had really researched stuff, Someday I will buy that book and know more... Once I got access to the internet, I started reading those books, they were filled with inconsistent contradictory statements, it looked like the authors were throwing random shit against the wall and seeing what stuck.
I don't need to read the complete works of adam smith to understand supply and demand economics. Dont give me a reading list of ten thousand pages, If you have read it, and understood it, explain the core point in 5 min.
I recently watched a video on "sanatani economics" by a RW "scholar" my friend insisted that I should really listen to atleast this one video to understand what he was discussing.
I watched the first 20-30 min of the video, it was filled with
- Crude masturbatory fantasies regarding Russian and japanese girls becoming available to Indian men.
- Recommendations that are not thought through, e.g. Every apartment should own a cow and keep it in their parking lot. (In bangalore that would translate to 20+ lakh cows. Where will we get and keep the fodder for them? how will we dispose the dung? Where will the cows exercise? A single cow produces around 10-20 liters of milk per day. what will we do with it?
Having read the actual original works that their authors like Anand etc use and having seen how they use selective quote to change the meaning of the sentence. I no longer have a desire to waste my time reading their derived literature.
Thekedar of hinduism
In mahabharatha krishna <evil act>...
I grew up in a deeply devout hindu household. Some of my ancestors were considered saints, some headed various mutt's. My grandmother spent decades touring India with various monastic orders and could speak for days about various past saints, scriptures, difference in interpretation of scriptures across India etc.
I have sat through pravachanas where the most respected religious authorities have termed certain actions of gods and humans as incorrect, sinful and went on to describe the punishment they underwent for their immoral act and recommended we should learn from this and lead a life of dharma.
Talk to a person from RSS about the immorality of their org and members, and he will quickly refer to the immoral act in scriptures as a justification. Talk about rape, murder, stealing, adultery, lying, cheating by members of RSS. Question the morality of the act. and they will quickly take refuge in the actions of sri krishna....
Respond with "what krishna did was not dharma, he and pandavas underwent punishment for it" and see them flare up with "How dare you insult hinduism apologize right now!" This has happpened so many times with me that I have realized that hurt hindu feelings are nothing but a debating strategy.
Deep state. Western Civ. etc.
This is usually brought out when there are no logical reasonable defense. "We know this is wrong, but deep state is out to destroy India, we have to make compromises to win the battle"
Any group in individuals with a common interest will band together to collectively pursue those interests. Wealthy passionate groups can devote a large part of their fortune towards those interests. Soros is interested in decentralized democracy and has invested in thousands of NGO's working towards that goal. Decentralized democracy was also the core ideology of Gandhiji, Gadaffi and many other leaders.
Advocate for decentralized democracy and you automatically become soros agent!
Speak against acts of RSS, BJP, Modi etc. and you will find yourself an agent of some foreign power or the other...
My friend once spent half an our detailing the organisational structure of the deep state (these families are members, they are represented by these persons, these are the various bodies in the organisation, these world leaders are the members of these bodies. Lots of famous presidents, prime ministers, religious figures etc. were name dropped as members of this org. finally when I asked do you have proof for anything you said? No... but you should really read this author who had written about deep state...
Does a deep-state exist? Maybe it does, maybe it doesnt, If I have a few billions I would certainly use it to fund causes that I am interested in. So I dont deny others are doing it too. But that does not mean every event in the world should be linked to deepstate without seeking more logical reasons.
The stories of Modiji's crimes are getting exposed because he committed those crimes, not because deep-state is working against modiji!